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heroes. we'll hear from the family of the teacher who gave her life to protect her students. >> we begin this morning with a look at today's eye opener your world in 90 seconds. there are portions of sadness that we can share with you to ease this heavy load, we will gladly bear it. newtown, you are not alone. >> america mourns a national tragedy, as investigators at a connecticut community search for answers. >> the second deadliest school shooting in united states history. >> this not just heartbreaking. they're not just names. it's not a list. they're little kids. >> the heartbreaking good-byes begin today with the first funerals. >> the shooter has been positively identified as adam lanza. his death has been ruled a suicide. >> police are still investigating a motive for the massacre. >> i don't think anything is worse than what happened in this school. >> what happened there is a nightmare. >> to pick on 6 and 7-year-olds, it's beyond horrific.
>> i had to break it to all the folks who were assembled at the firehouse that their children or their loved ones were not coming home. that's an exercise that i will live with for the most of my life. >> house speaker john boehner is now willing to consider a tax increase for those making more than $1 million a year. >> the nfl took a moment to reflect. teams and players paid tribute to those affected by the school massacre. >> if congress wasn't so afraid of the nra, we'd all be a lot better off. >> a free people should be an armed people. once you start drawing the line where do you stop? >> and all that matters. >> ♪ silent snit ♪ . >> she was the best mother anybody could ask for. >> she was the type of person that could just light up the room. i'm so blessed to be her dad. >> on "cbs this morning." >> god has called them all home. for those of us who remain let us find the strength to carry on
and make our country worthy of their memory. welcome to "cbs this morning." i'm charlie rose in new york. norah o'donnell is in newtown, connecticut. norah, good morning. >> charlie, good morning. as you wake up on the west coast, this new england town is still in shock over the deaths of 28 people including 20 young children. the first funerals are taking place later today for two 6-year-old boys and last night president obama led the mourners at a prayer vigil for the victims. jeff glor is here with that story. jeff, good morning. >> norah, good morning to you. before his speech last night, president obama told the governor of connecticut that friday was the most difficult day of his presidency. he carried that knowledge with him on stage, delivering a speech that said something must change.
>> we gather here in memory of 20 beautiful children and 6 remarkable adults. >> as president obama addressed the crowd at sandy hook high school last night. >> i can only hope it helps for you to know -- >> he said he spoke for all parents. >> -- that you're not alone in your grief. that our world too has been torn apart. that all across this land of ours, we have wept with you. >> but he also spoke as a weary leader. >> since i've been president this is the fourth time we have come together to comfort a grieving community torn apart by mass shootings. we can't tolerate this anymore. these tragedies must end. surely we can do better than this. >> and as he read the names of the 20 children who died in
friday's shooting some of the 900 audience members began to cry. >> noah caroline. >> each victim was represented by a white candle that burned throughout the interfaith vigil. a ceremony diverse in voices. >> oh, god we call you by many names. ♪ >> but united in message. >> we ask god to grant those lost a special place in paradise. >> the community honored its first responders starting with emotional applause as they entered the room. >> so we ask you, lord to walk with us. >> and later with prayer. >> to listen to what they saw that was not for anyone to ever see. >> mr. obama privately met with many of the victims' families. in this photo, he's holding the granddaughter of dawn
hochsprung sandy hook's principal, killed friday when she tried to stop the gunman. >> as a community, you've inspired us newtown. >> he also did his part to ease one fear in this town that they would be forever defined. >> in the face of unconscionable evil. >> by this tragedy. >> you looked out for each other. you cared for one another, and you've loved one another. this is how newtown will be remembered. >> newtown police held a press conference a short time ago. they say the school the elementary school is still a crime scene. they have not said when it will reopen or norah, if it will ever reopen. >> this memorial last night that the president spoke at was also a time for him to deliver a message too, and he said there is no excuse for inaction. what did you think of the tone of his remarks? >> we were talking about this. i think a lot of people were expecting him, of course, to comfort people who lived here but i think a lot of people were surprised at how strong that call for action and change was.
>> he said -- he vowed to use whatever power this office holds to stop these types of massacres. >> keep in mind, he did not talk about the gun control issue at all on the campaign trail or after tucson or after aurora. he did yesterday. >> jeff glor thank you. officials released the names of the victims over the weekend, and now family members and friends are telling their stories. jim axelrod is here in newtown with a closer look at some of those victims. jim, good morning. >> reporter: good morning. the grief comes in overwhelming ways here in newtown, norah. putting names and faces to numbers of victims produces an almost crippling sadness. >> one, two, three, ready, and go. ♪ come now almighty king ♪ >> reporter: simply put, 6-year-old ana marquez-greene
had the voice of an angel. she didn't miss a beat as she sang alongside her brother in this home video. in a statement on facebook her father jazz musician jimmy greene wrote as much as she's needed here and missed by her mother, brother, and me ana, it is all the paradise. i love you, sweetie girl. the faces of some of the victims came into focus this weekend as loved ones began to come to grips with their painful losses. >> emilie was bright creative and very loving. >> reporter: robbie parker the father of 6-year-old emili i.e. honored his oldest daughter in a tribute just hours after they were told her life had been cut short. >> she was the kind of person that could just light up a room. she always had something kind to say about anybody, and i'm so blessed to be her dad.
>> reporter: 6-year-old jessica rekos was remembered as a horse lover who had asked santa for new cowgirl boots and a cowgirl hat. in a statement, her family wrote about their rock. "we called her our little ceo for the way she carefully thought out and planned everything. we cannot imagine our life without her." today funerals will be held for some of the young victims, including 6-year-old noah pozner described as smart as a whip. his twin sister survived the shooting in a different classroom classroom. then there are the women whose passion for their job cost them their lives including 29-year-old rachel davino who was about to get engaged on christmas eve. 27-year-old vicki soto who tried to save her students with her final breath. and 30-year-old lauren rueousseau, whose family said in a statement, lauren wanted to be a
teacher from before she even went to kindergarten. we will miss her terribly and take comfort in the fact she achieved that dream. 26 souls. ♪ amen ♪ bound together now forever. we just mentioned noah pozner who will be among the first to be buried. his funeral is set for 1:00 this afternoon. so is the funeral for jack pinto, who also was 6 years old. charlie? >> jim axelrod, thanks. police say adam lanza killed himself after first responders to the school caught up with him. he died carrying hundreds of rounds of unused ammunition. bob orr is in washington with more on the killer. >> many go charlie. investigators tell us they're know cussing on the relationship gunman adam lanza had with his mother. the picture is emerging of a troubled loner. adam lanza's massacre began at home.
police say the 20-year-old recluse shot his mother nancy multiple times in the head killing her as she slept. sources say nancy lanza was a demanding mother who pushed her socially challenged son toward higher goals while schooling him at home. he also accompanied his mother on trips to shooting ranges. family friend mark told scott pelley on cbs's "60 minutes" nancy was an avid gun enthusiast. >> she liked to target shoot. she got into the last few years or so. she really enjoyed it. yes, she was an advocate. >> reporter: nancy lanza kept at least six legally registered guns at the home she shared with adam. former sister-in-law marsha lanza said nancy seemed worried about the future. >> last time we visited, we talked about prepping and staying ready for what could happen down the line when the economy collapses. >> reporter: survivalist kind of
thing? >> yes. >> reporter: on sunday police towed the car adam lanza drove to the crime scene as they continue to search for a motive for his actions. police now nolan za useknow lanza used one of the guns to kill his mother and used three others on the murderous spree, but they still cannot explain why he targeted first graders and teachers at sandy hook elementary. investigators say lanza attended that school several years ago, but nothing has emerged to indicate he held any grudge against the place. high school classmates remember lanza as bright but withdrawn. olivia vivo spoke to "60 minutes." >> he just would get very nervous, and his face would turn bright red, and he'd get very fidgety. it wasn't that he didn't know the answer. it's just it was very difficult for him to say what he wanted to say. >> reporter: family friends say lanza suffered from asperger's syndrome, a mild form of autism. ryan kraft used to baby sit adam
when he was 8 years old and always kept him under close watch. >> i received instruction from nancy to always supervise adam at all times and never turn my back on him. >> if lanza had problems with his mother he never expressed them verbally. while he was a computer nerd, he turned out to be a nonplayer in the social networking world. police are hoping his own e-mails and private files might be more revealing. >> cbs correspondent john miller former fbi investigator, good morning. tell me more about what we know about the guns. >> the guns are emerging to be very interesting. there was the bushmaster weapon he used to do all of the killing on the scene. what it shows is he carefully selected the tools for the job he had in mind in this terrible terrible way. the other gun that we learned about yesterday was a glock .10 millimeter. that's a very unusual gun, costs about $600 weighs 28 ounces. it fires 16 rounds.
but the 10 millimeter is an extraordinarily large shell for a handgun. and the stated purpose of this weapon since it's almost impractical as a kind of personal defense weapon because of its size and recoil is a handgun for hunting large game. it's issued to rangers in greenland in case they encounter a polar bear. this was the gun that he saved to kill himself because i think, in his plan it seems if he encountered police, part of his maintaining control over the action was he would eliminate himself before they did, and he apparently selected the weapon that would do it with one step. >> so definitely thought about this carefully. >> a lot. the other element here is the hundreds of unspent rounds that were recovered. this shows he probably sought out to order and purchase probably online -- we'll learn this in the coming days -- numerous additional magazines for the weapons he intended to use on children and that had he
not encountered police early on -- and it appears he probably didn't expect to -- that with all of that additional ammo loaded into magazines, that he intended to keep going through that l skoo. it's hard to imagine something this bad could have been worse. >> more information might be coming from the computer hard drive? >> he damaged the computers. he broke the hard drives. the fbi computer lab is supposed to try and put those back together and see what they can extract. they've had some very good experience getting information out of damaged hard drives before, though, and that may be telling in terms of his planning, his documents, including what he may have purchased online. >> and why is the department involved in this? >> it's very interesting, charlie, we have seen in the aurora case. before that, in the virginia tech case these guys tend to write up or record some communicae that explains the why and send them out there. in this case we're looking at the post office or anything with
his return address, is there something that he sent right before this incident that we can intercept and look at as evidence? >> thank you, john. norah? >> thanks charlie. students here in newtown are not in school today, but the teachers are. earlier, i asked the executive director of the connecticut association of public school superintendents what the teachers will be doing as they head back to work today. >> they will be getting some counseling themselves. they will be getting some direction as to how they're going to address the concerns of students and parents when schools do reopen. that's going to be a serious concern because i think everybody in newtown has been traumatized by what occurred. >> everyone has been traumatized, especially these young children. how do you provide counseling for children? what can you say to them? >> i think the one thing you have to assure them is that they're going to be safe. the most important thing that could happen to these children when they return is their teachers will hug them nurture them, and go back into a regular school routine as quickly as
possible. if they do that, then the children should be okay. parents still need to be assured. so i'm sure there's going to be beefed up security throughout the newtown public school system and around the state as far as that is concerned. that's what you do. you try to get back to something normal as quickly as possible. >> you talked about beefed up security, even in this memorial that's behind us. one of the signs says security guards at every school. it appears that the school was doing everything right. >> the school was almost a model for how to secure a building. unfortunately, so long as disturbed people can get their hands on guns somebody can shoot their way into a school and do this. this is a problem not only in schools. we know that. we need to come to terms with that. there will be other things done. there will be i'm sure police presence in some schools, guards, and all that. but that all by itself -- i remember when i was a superintendent police told me if you put a policeman at the door and somebody wants to do damage, the first person they're going to go after is the guard,
and then they'll go into the school. >> this school that has suffered the most horrific tragedy, a massacre of first graders, do you think it will ever reopen? >> well, that's an open question. i do know that, at least for the near future, the children will be at a school in monroe. there's a middle school in monroe that's vacant that's been offered to newtown. i think they're preparing to go there whenever they bring those children back. if columbine is any example of what happens in columbine, the students did not go back for the rest of that school year. they renovated the school when they went back the next september so that when the students went back it wasn't the same building they had left. they probably -- and i can't foresee this or predict it but something similar to that will probably occur. >> so like what happened at columbine, which is take a year off from the school maybe make some changes, and then come back. and i understand they're already taking some of the supplies and furniture from here at sandy hook and bringing it to monroe to prepare for the children?
>> that's correct. monroe is a middle school, obviously. this is a primary grade school. they need that kind of furniture. they'll be there for a while. we're very fortunate that monroe had the building, and the folks in monroe have been quite generous generous. >> what should superintendents at other schools, principals should they be making any changes? >> well, they, first of all, need to review their security procedures. that's happening at any school in the country. the other thing that's been happening throughout the state is the principals and superintendents have been preparing their staffs to deal with the anxieties that are going to be there this morning when those children return. they've been meeting over the weekend, there are a number of things being prepared. >> joseph, thank you so much for that information. we appreciate it. a few showers showing up around the bay area out the door. the roads are very slick. so be careful. as we have seen a weak storm passed through the bay area overnight keeping things cloudy, cool and a bit damp outside. our high-def doppler radar showing you some of those
scattered showers pushing through right now. pretty good band sliding through the central bay in san francisco over to the east bay now, as well. it looks like we are going to see more scattered showers like this, this morning but then things taper off in the afternoon. highs in the 50s maybe low 60s. >> the school nurse at sandy hook elementary tells "60 minutes" how she came inches away from the killer.
>> his feet were facing in my direction, and i just froze with fear, and then he just -- it was just seconds and then he turned around, and i could hear him walk out. >> this morning sally cox tells her frightening story. >> and president obama says we must change to protect our children, and democrats in congress say new gun control laws must be part of that change. we'll see if there's any real shift in the gun control debate on "cbs this morning."
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ger gun laws. bill plante is at the white house this morning. bill, good morning. >> good morning to you, norah. there was a federal ban on assault weapons and that expired in 2004. congress has resisted any moves to bring it back or to put any other kind of curbs on firearms. but today the question obviously is posed very structurally does this action of the deaths of 20 children spur any action. could this time be any different? >> i'm going to introduce in the
senate and the same bill will be introduced in the house, a bill to ban assault weapons. >> for some democrats, friday's shooting has inspired a new push to bring back the ban on assault weapons, a bill that would restrict the sale of guns like the one used in the newtown massacre. >> i do believe this is a different time. i'm not going to say it's easy. it will not be easy. >> carolyn mccarthy is a new york kojwoman who lost her husband in a mass shooting in 1993. >> this is where the american people are going to have to be outraged again. >> president obama said last night he would use all the power in his office to prevent a repeat of the tragedy like the newtown massacre. he ignored the gun control issue in his first term and when he ran for president in 2008 he tried to reassure gun owners. >> i am not going to take your guns away. so if you want to find an excuse not to vote for me, don't use that one.
because that just ain't true. >> gun control advocates are outnumbered in congress. texas representative argued sunday that more guns are needed to prevent such tragedies, even inside a school principal's office. >> i wish to god she had a gun in her office locked up so when she heard gun fire she pulls it out and she didn't have to lunge heroically with nothing in her hands. >> the politics of gun control are toxic. gun rights groups like the national rifle association wield tremendous influence. >> it's a very skillful lobbying organization. >> paul barrett has reported on the powerful gun policy on glock. though they're equally divided this massacre is no more likely to put limits on firearms than any preev one it's almost impossible to imagine them taking on the nra
and defying the nra. and that being the case i just think it's very very unlikely as a pragmatic political matter for anything to be enacted. >> but there is going to be a push for action in congress. tomorrow the brady campaign to prevent gun violence named for president reagan's press secretary who was shot in the assassination attempt on the president, the brady campaign plans to bring survivors and victim families from the shootings in aurora colorado arizona, and columbine to capitol hill. >> thank you. the fiscal cliff negotiation is suddenly making progress. john boehner broke the log jam with a phone call on friday. major garrett is also at the white house. good morning. >> good morning charlie. there could be a deal as early as this week. many words from senior officials, the log jam has been broken. how has it been broken?
in a phone call on friday. in that phone conversation speaker boehner said he was willing. and house republicans would vote for higher marginal income tax rates on those households earning more than $1 million, 39.6 would be the rate on 39.6 would be the rate on that. he also said there would be a one-year lift on the debt ceiling. however, charlie, this has to be tied to about $1 trillion in entitlement cuts. the white house has not signed off on that. there are many underlying details but the talks are real. the progress is real. we may have a deal some time this week. >> and the ball is in the white house's court or is it in the speaker's court? >> i would tell you this, charlie. no more court playing or positioning like that. all sides are talking to each other, working through the numbers and the policies and checking on both sides to see they can handle that or swallow that politically that's what's different about the negotiations. no more striking poses. actual give and take. >> does the -- does speaker
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hackney. schools across much of the bay area will have grief counselors live from the cbs 5 studios in san francisco, i'm brian hackney. good morning. schools across much of the bay area will have grief counselors available today following the shootings on friday in connecticut. one of them is lakeshore elementary school in san francisco. the city's school district has counselors on hand for educators and students. a home invasion robbery overnight in san francisco's sunset neighborhood. police say a family was tied up with duct tape and robbed at their home on sloat boulevard. the family tells police three
let's go live to the san mateo bridge. traffic is slow and go this morning. we have wet conditions out there so be careful. you will see most of those delays on westbound side. eastbound moving with no problems at all this morning. now jumping over to our maps, northbound 880 at mission, wreck blocking lanes, traffic slow through the scene. brake lights northbound 880 into the maze. looks like a 33-minute ride away from 238. also an accident on 980 at 11th. >> a lot of clouds outside right now. we have scattered light showers showing up. the main cold front pulling through as we look at coit tower. a lot of gray skies out there now. high-def doppler radar showing you the system moving through.
jesse, james, grace, emilie jack noah carol in jessica, benjamin, avielle, allison. god has called them all home. >> that is president obama reading the names of the children and adults who were killed in the newtown school shooting. it is 8:00 a.m. welcome back to "cbs this morning." i'm charlie rose in new york. gail king and norra o'donnell are in connecticut where the victims of the school shootings will be held later today. >> good morning, charlie. it was so hard to hear the president and there were audible sons inside that school auditorium when he read the names. >> family members told me that they took a lot of comfort in
the president saying their name and the thing that makes it so heartbreaking, as we all know is the ages and it gets you every single time. >> it gets you every time. >> he spoke at this prayer vigil, we mentioned, last night. one of the ministers last night said we needed this. that interfaith service. jeff glor, you have more on that service. good morning. >> good morning, too. the president spoke at sandy hook high school. there was an overflow crowd and nearby 900 people inside that auditorium. the president was there to comfort victims and also first responders, but he also called for change. >> if there is even one step we can take to save another child or another parent or another town from the grief that's visited tucson and aurora and oak creek and newtown, and communities from columbine to
blacksburg before that then truly we have an obligation to try. >> reporter: this was not a long speech, but it may go down as a significant one. nora and gail remember the president did not talk about the gun control issue at all on the campaign trail and now he is. >> i'm hearing in the town last night they said they hope that the president will now speak up and that he will use the bully pulpit and lead to some change. they said if a kindergartner and elementary kids are not safe in this school what is wrong with this country? >> we were in aurora, whenna you arora happened. the president did not address the issue aftera aurora in july. >> or after gabby giffords. >> we should pause and talk about the two young boys who are being laid to rest today. noah pozner was the youngest. >> youngest of the victims, and
avielle, and i cannot imagine losing your twins. jack pinto, also 6 years old. he was a wrestler and he loved sports and there you can see him in his baseball uniform. these two young boys who had their young lives ahead of them remembered fondly and they'll be laid to rest here in newtown. >> the parents are starting to speak out because they want you to know what their children were like and in a way it's a comforting thing to hear from these people that these were wonderful, loving adorable human beings. it's nice to know. >> absolutely. >> thank you, jeff. >> the newtown shootings have tachd nerve all around the world and one of the young victims at sandy hook elementary school was a boy from great britain and his name was dylan hockley. charlie is in southern england. good morning to you. >> good morning to you, gayle. >> and here is a picture of
6-year-old dylan and here is the home where he and his family used to live. his american mother and brother used to live here and they moved to a place called the safest town in the u.s. residents held a small church service in memory of the english school boy who used to live here. >> heavenly father we pray for the soul of dylan hockley, a young life taken away an innocent 6-year-old who we know will be welcome into your heavenly kingdom. >> reporter: dylan was one of 20 children killed in his classroom in connecticut. >> a u.s. community has been ripped apart and a nation left shattered. after a gunman opened fire. >> reporter: the news of so many innocent children shot dead still came as a shock to a world that has become used to hearing stories about mass shootings in the u.s. in britain, longtime conservative rupert murdoch's
"sun" newspaper simply said end the lunacy and tighten gun control. world leaders offered messages of support and condolences from around the world. >> i was deeply saddened by friday's senseless violence in newtown, connecticut. >> president obama, the family the people of america, the people of israel grieve with you. >> afghan president hamid karzai e expressed his sorrow on behalf of the people of afghanistan. from the beaches of brazil to south korea and china and to australia, so many people were united in shock and grief of the terrible tragedy and senseless loss of life at the hands of a lone gunman. >> reporter: dylan's father ian was just here last week settling down a sale on this property. he told friends here how excited he was to settle down permanently in the united states and beginning what he called his dream life in america.
charlie d'agata, thanks. >> one of the victimswitnesses was. >> all of a sudden i heard a loud popping noise. a noise i've never, ever heard before and my first thought was this something with the heating system or did something fall and i called out to the secretary, barb, what is that? and she called out to me by name, she said sally, and i could just hear the fear in her voice. >> it was something about the way barb called out your name. >> yes. yes. she just had this horrible sound of fear in her voice. that's what made me just -- because i think i was about ready to go to see what was going on. the popping kept going off, and i just dove underneath my computer desk.
the back of the desk has a small opening for wires to come out, and i just peaked. i could see his feet and his legs from the knees down and his feet were facing in my direction, and i just froze with fear, and then he just -- it was just seconds and then he turned around and i could hear him walk out and i heard the door close and i heard popping start all over again. and then the secretary was down behind my desk and we pulled the phone off the desk and she called 911. >> reporter: and she said what? >> she said we have a shooter. please send help right away we have a shooter in the building and then we -- we just wanted to get out of there. and then we just ran into my big supply closet and we ran into the closet we pulled that door closed so we were behind two locked doors and we could just
hear the popping continue and we heard screams. nothing we could do, you know? it was just a helpless horrible feeling, you know? and just like a nightmare that we couldn't believe. it was like a bad dream. after some time i think it was about 11:15 so we had been in that closet for about an hour and a half, i opened the door and i peaked out because my office has a lot of windows and looks into the courtyard and i -- i just saw what looked like maybe s.w.a.t. people and about 1:15 and someone was jiggling the door and nobody called out, so i decided to be brave enough and open that door into the office and a lot of state police officers were there at that
point and they were very surprised to see me. >> you were in the closet for about four hours. >> close to it, yeah. yeah. just fearful. >> sally cox, the school nurse, what's with incredible about these stories, they're about courage, they're about fear and about grief over what's happened to people you knew and loved and at the same time you lived with this notion, how did i escape? how did i escape? >> many people are asking that very thing today, charlie, ande, and what gets me every time i hear a story is that every story you hear sheds more light on the horror that the people went through which makes it more extraordinary how the people say they're united in their grief and they're going to get through this together. >> yeah. the school nurse described in that interview how the first responders and law enforcement said close your eyes. we will guide you out. they did not want her to see the horror inside that school and
question of mental health a question of what makes someone like this young man snap. why? why do they do it? >> well, charlie, there's two reasons why somebody would commit this unspeakable kind of crime. the first is that they believe that they have to do it so the psychotic, deranged killer who's delusion nal and thinks he has to save the world or rid evil and believes his delusions goes out and does it. another might be an ideological zealot that believes he's on jihad and has to do like with the ft. hood army major. but the other is somebody who can't control their emotions. their emotions have overwhelmed their capacity for control, and they're motivated by uncontrollable rage or anger to carry out this kind of crime. and although we know to some degree who -- which kind of individuals may be at risk for not being able to contain their rage, for acting in this way, we cannot predict exactly when they
will do it because when they will do it oftentimes is a result of a random event or a coincidental series of conflicts or altercations of incidents that tips them over the edge. >> why would an individual who would act out this way kill himself in the end? i mean sometimes they do this for notoriety or for credit, but you have to ask yourself if you're going to do this and then take your own life, to what end? >> well we see mass murderers killing themselves at the end of their killing spree not uncommonly, and what it means is that they have the wherewithal to understand that their life is over after that. i mean, they will spend the life of their life in jail if they don't get the death penalty. but you don't see that kind of suicide at the end of a killing spree with somebody who's psychotic like jared loughner was after shooting gabby gifford or the virginia tech killer. >> so what should we do about this? >> well i think there are
several things that are actionable, and the debate we've heard in the last 48 hours is is focused on the first thing, which is gun control. a lot of these things are impulsive. they're motivated by a welling up of emotion that overcomes a person's ability for control and they act. if something wasn't immediately available to use to act on they would be deterred at least in order to be able to plan to get it and in that time the emotion may dissipate. the other thing is that a lot of the other individuals that are doing this have identifiable mental problems. if we had a more proactive, more wildly available, a more accessible mental health -- set of mental health care services in this country, our society would be a lot better off. >> i wanted a debate that goes on here over gun control. we saw the columbine massacre right in the middle of the assault weapons ban so, maybe another law isn't really going to be the fix here. not the reason not to do it but it's not the cure.
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>> your realtime captioner: linda marie macdonald live from the cbs studio in san francisco, i'm brian hackney. it is 8:26. an apartment fire in oakland is under control. the fire in the 800 block of warfield avenue broke out around 7:45 a.m. one person was treated for smoke inhalation. no word on the cause. >> investigators are looking into a home invasion robbery in san francisco this morning. police say family members were tied up with duct tape and robbed at their home on sloat
you can see southbound almost at a standstill on some spots. 42 minutes between 238 and the maze. pretty much in both directions. also a couple of other trouble spots on 880 at mission. we have reports of a car fire. it is over to the right shoulder but slow and go anyway through there. also 101 has been slow and go both directions along the peninsula. you're going to see delays toward sfo. westbound 237, 11 minutes between 880 and 101. almost an hour for your commute through the altamont pass west 580 to 680 slow-and-go. a weak storm system sliding through the bay area this morning. heading out now a lot of clouds, light showers, some heavy drizzle, it's very damp outside. looking toward the san jose airport, we have some gray skies, some showers headed in their direction, as well. high-def doppler radar is picking up on some of that moisture right now. the main cold front is weakly moving through outside and falling apart somewhat. a closer look, you can see the band holding together enough to bring a drenching in san leandro toward hayward and the south bay throughout the morning. and by the afternoon, though, the skies are going to part a
a woman from north carolina donated 26 trees in memory of the 20 children and six adults killed here and people in the town have come to decorate the trees and at all hours of the day once daylight breaks people come and contribute leave an ornament or a note. one of the notes they thought was so poignant was a sign that said "sleep in heavenly peace." >> and there's a set of angel wings hanging beneath a wreath. it's very touching. the littlest angels the youngest victim. charlie is in new york. charlie, good morning to you. >> good morning, norah and gayle. one group of students saw the ultimate example, a teacher who gave her live to save theirs. peter van sant spoke with the parents of a child who escaped the massacre. peter, good morning. >> good morning, charlie. robert and dieane la cotta's
children are now safe at home. when i spoke with them their emotions are still raw. and the stories their 6-year-old son told them beyond imagining. >> he's a brave little boy. you know he's -- he's -- he's doing okay. we're trying to explain things to him in a way that he understands. >> reporter: robert and die an la cotta are faced with explaining the unexplainable. their 6-year-old son and 7-year-old daughter were both at sandy hook elementary school on friday morning. the parents ask we not use their children's names. as of saturday afternoon they hadn't told their son his teacher had died. >> he's obviously upset. he wants to know about his teacher and how his teacher is doing and we're explaining to him that we don't know but if something did happen that they're in heaven and they're
angels. >> reporter: his teacher was vicki soto. known for her dedication to her students vicki had just turned 27. >> she was an absolutely amazing teacher. she was just so young and so full of life and educating got her so excited and teaching those children it's what she lived to do. >> reporter: die an was driving attet:45 friday morning when she got an emergency message from the school district. a report of an unconfirmed shooting. she made a u-turn and headed toward sandy hook elementary. >> i saw my daughter's teacher, and i asked her, you know, where my daughter was and she said she didn't know because they were separated. >> what's going on inside you at this moment? >> you're completely numb and you're trying not to let your mind go to all the bad places. >> reporter: after around agonizing wait the children who survived the shooting began to
file out. suddenly diane spotted her daughter. >> she just said mommy, what's happening, and i said i don't know what's happening so just stay with your class, go to the fire station, stay with your friends, and daddy will be here. so robert went to the station, and i said i'm going to wait here for our son to come out. and, you know he didn't come. so each group that came out. i waited. and i parade he was with that group. and he -- he never came out. so i really at that point didn't know if i would ever see him again. i got a text from a friend and it simply said that our son was at the police station. >> her son had escaped. he later told his parents of a remarkable story of the nightmare unfolding inside his classroom. when the shooting began inside sandy hook elementary school
vicki soto moved her children in classroom 10 against the wall away from the door and that's when the little boy came face to face with the gunman. >> he somehow was able to burst open the door and basically at that point that's when they witnessed his teacher be shot and they all ran. my son was the last one out with the children that he escaped with. they ran right by the shooter who was in the doorway. how they escaped we still to this day don't know exactly how they managed to get past him. and they wantran out the door. >> they ran past the shooter. >> they ran past the door. >> so they saw some victims. >> they did. they did. >> the children got out, but the young teacher who had briefly shielded her students was left dead. >> i know she would have done anything to protect those kids. i know she would have. and i know she did everything
she could at the moment in the chaos and ascertaining what was happening. you know she is truly a hero and it's very likely because of her that our son is with us today. >> and just yesterday, the la cotta's told their son his teacher was with the angels. charlie? >> peter, i've been hearing that there's a possibility of a grassroots effort to honor vicki soto? >> yes. there's a petitions drive that's started. they're petitioning the white house to see if they'll give her the medal of freedom. so far they've gathered more than 7,000 signatures. over the weekend thousands of services focused on the event in newtown.
we mentioned earlier there is no school here in newtown. hundreds of parents make a difficult decision, whether to send their children back to class tomorrow in a nearby town. michelle miller has one family's story. >> it will accommodate our entire sandy hook program. >> reporter: she got the news from an automated phone call that her 9-year-old son will be going to a new school. >> what bothers you the most? >> if he can move on with this if he can trust again. >> reporter: kenneth is a fourth grader at sandy hook elementary school which is only a few miles from his home. now he and the rest of his classmates will attend a
different school but kenneth's mom says he's hesitant. >> he said he won't go back unless there's a police officer at every door. >> reporter: kenneth was saved by a music teacher who locked the door before the gunman could get in. >> the room he was in was being banged on by the a gunman trying to get in. >> reporter: the school has started grief counseling. she hasn't started grief counseling for her son yet. >> it's really sad. he's like 6 or 7 years old. do you talk to him. >> reporter: but the 17-year-old says she needs it. >> i definitely will take advantage of the counseling if it ever comes to that. >> what i tell parents is to look for any change in children's behavior. >> reporter: she's been talking with grief-stricken parents all weekend. >> what they really want is too be told is it's not going to happen to them that it's not going to happen again.
i can't tell them that. >> reporter: for now erica can field says she won't rush sending her kid to the new school but she doesn't believe sandy hook elementary should ever reopen. >> reporter: never? >> no. i don't think so. >> reporter: today canfield will attend a mandatory meeting for school employees. they'll skuft thediscuss the best way to handle kids returning to school. michelle miller newtown, connecticut. >> there are certain parental rules we know. don't talk to strangers, don't cross the street without looking, don't run with scissors but there's no way to prepare a child for it. last night i heard deeply divided thoughts. some parents said yes, we must go backings we're brought of our school and teacherers and others who say i can't bear to go back in the school. it's a very tough decision to
make. >> they said they might do what they did with columbine, close the school for a year do renovations and reopen. it's too soon. >> to make any decision. >> exactly. >> charlie back to you in new york. >> thank you. this weekend religious leaders all over the world offers well wishes all over newtown. pope benedict said we should all dedicate ourselves more fervently to prayer and acts of peace. welcome. >> welcome. >> we all turn to religion in times of tragedy or not. >> somehow there's a look for some answer. you know you're looking for somebody, some means to connect to, you know -- >> right. you know, when a tragedy like this happens, i think it ignites people's desire for a connection with god or with a transcendent which is of course always with
them in their daily lives, but in situation like that that need to connect with god or with a transcendent is very compelling for some people and people want to know that they don't live in a meaningless world. >> and then there are those who say how can bad things happen to good people. why would my god allow this. >> bad things happen to good people all the time. and i think that it's important for people to understand that god is not in control of the world. the world is not a puppet stage with god pulling the strings above it to make sure bad things don't happen to us. it's just not the way the world works. god created the universe set the universe free we're free human beings and the price of our freedom is suffering and evil. >> what did you say yesterday about shooting and about death from guns and the tragedy of newtown. >> there were a lot of people in church yesterday. we had many conversations with
people before, during and after the service. certainly this is a gun control issue, this is a mental health issue, it's also a spiritual issue. >> and people need counseling. what can be said to them? >> counseling is always a good idea. you know, i think either spiritual counseling psychological counseling. i think for most people, though just being with friends, with people that they love to surround them to help them know that they're not alone, most people just need to be with friends and with loved ones. >> someone to give you a hug, someone to say -- >> sure. >> -- this too, shall pass but we will always know deeply the memory inside of us. >> and also -- and also to remember that people around the world are suffering every day. 600,000 children a day die of starvation so to remember that our piece of this is a piece of a much larger suffering world,
welcome back to what is an incredible town here of people who are grieving but also have an incredible sense of community. >> yeah, the people that live here love this town norah. >> love this town. and in the face of a few hours on friday this town was forced out of its quiet daily routine into an international spotlight that no town ever wants to face.
margaret brennan is from this area and she's been talking with local residents who say they won't let their town be defined by this tragedy. margaret good morning. >> good morning to you, norah. and newtown was almost always described as a town next to some place else. now residents fear that it will forever be known as the place where that tragedy happened. it's a town older than the country itself. it has picturesque farms sur ruineded by picket fences and white wash walls. the downtown reminds its of its colonial past. this is the first image people saw. elementary students being hustled from their class. it was snapped by the local paper. this is probably the biggest story that the paper has ever reported. >> oh, yeah by far. >> smith was inundated with
requests for the photo from publications around the world. he decided to give it away for free. >> we put it right up on our website. >> why did you choose to do that? >> what else do you do? >> it's the kind of gracious small town mindset. they talk about old-fashioned values here like the civic pride that turns up volunteers. even though it sits midway between the two. >> people describe this as sort of a typical new england town. is that how you see it? >> no. i think we're better than a typical town. >> reporter: before its moment of infamy it was better known for its birth plaigs of the board game scrabble. it's labor day parade is the main event of the year. >> they shut down the main road
of the town. you have to go to the parade or stay home. >> reporter: they grew up here. their parents were among the first responders. both girls refuse to let this tragedy define their home. >> we have a 125-foot flag polyin the middle of a major intersection intersection. it's funny but it's what makes our town really charming. >> reporter: they want everyone to know about those little things. the sandwiches at the local store, the town hall where people go for sandwiches and $2 movies, not just for grief counseling and funerals. despite everything the girls tell us they still feel safe right here at home. >> margaret brennan thank you. >> that's exactly what we're hearing. the flag margaret just showed in her piece, they say that's the pride of the town. there's a huge town when you arrive on the town's limit that says together we are still strong and you do get that sense. a woman said to me at the vigil, you are seen -- you see grief
everywhere you go but they're comforted, norah by the fact that people are here and people are cheering them on and supporting them on all over the world and that means the world to them. >> it does mean the world to them. we're going to send it now back to charlie. >> thank you, norah and gayle. that does it for us. as we leave you, we'll take a look back at the president's visit to newtown. another emotional moment. we'll see you tomorrow on "cbs this morning." >> they lost their lives in a school that could have been any school. all across this land of ours we have wept with you. we pulled our children tight. newtown, you are not alone. as these difficult days have unfolded, you also inspired us. the stories of strength and resolve and sacrifice. >> i wish i could just tell her
that i'm so proud of her and i'm so proud to say that victoria is my sister. >> and we know that good guys came, the first responders who raced to the scene, holding at bay their own shock and their own trauma because they had a job to do and others needed them more. >> she was the type of person that could just light up the room. >> with their very first cry, this most precious vital part of ourselves, our child, is suddenly exposed to the world. >> she is an incredible person, and i'm so blessed to be her dad. >> and we're all parents. they're all our children. god has called them all home. for those of us who remain let us find the strength to carry on
>> your realtime captioner: linda marie macdonald live from the cbs 5 studio in san francisco, i'm brian hackney at 8:56. right now police in santa clara are looking for a suspicious man officers say people living in the area of washington and newhold street spotted two men at 7 a.m. when officers arrived, one of the men took off running. the other taken into custody. investigators are looking into a home invasion robbery in san francisco this morning. police say family members were tied up with duct tape and robbed at their home on sloat
conditions at the san mateo bridge. lots of rain out there. but slow-and-go on the westbound side towards foster city. on the maps, we have a couple of accidents northbound 280 at ocean. look out for an accident in lanes. northbound 280 at 380 an accident block the road. tough drive on 880 in oakland. northbound still slow as you work your way towards the maze about a 40-minute ride from 238. reports of an accident at 98th on the northbound side of 880. that's adding to an already very busy ride through there. also 101 northbound through san jose busy as well as northbound 280 through downtown san jose. and westbound 237 pretty much at a standstill. give yourself extra time. 11 minutes between 880 and 101. lawrence? >> all right. storm clouds continuing to move through the bay area this morning. we are seeing showers continuing outside beginning to try and break up in parts of north bay. this is our mount vaca cam as a cold front now is south of the area. but still, high-def doppler radar showing you rain moving by and you see that line,
[cheers and applause] >> rachael: welcome, everybody! the holidays are of course just around the corner. it doesn't look very festive in here right now, though, right? big black curtain. what better time than the season of giving than that count our blessings. on the eastern seaboard hurricane sandy gave us a reminder of what matters most to each of us and how quickly the t